Quite the decision clocks, all the best with it.
james, I’m gonna nick something from you and post here something I posted elsewhere. ‘Cos I think it’s pretty good.
Imagine, if you can, you apply for your pension and have to fill out a long form and provide evidence of your date of birth and proof of every single NI payment throughout the whole of your working life.
Then you are summoned to attend an assessment. You are assessed by someone who has no relevant background and you are asked to pick up an empty box. Weeks later, you get a letter telling you that you are not really a pensioner and are entitled to nothing, in spite of all the evidence you have provided.
You then have to ask for mandatory review and may have to wait months to be told that because you could pick the box up you are not entitled to a pension. Bearing in mind that you have paid into the system all your working life.
Now you have to appeal. Which can take months, and you have no support in making your appeal as legal aid is no longer available. You can’t heat your home, if you are renting you may be evicted. You have to use food banks.
The appeal finds you are entitled to your pension. Your money is backdated and you readjust to a bearable life.
Then a letter comes through from the DWP. You must reapply for your pension. You haven’t got any younger, it’s ridiculous. Less than one percent of pension claims are fraudulent, this system costs more than it saves. But if you don’t do what is asked, you lose your pension.
That is life for the sick and disabled since 2010.”
It is pure, evil, madness, Justa. And as if you need the extra anxiety it causes. But I do know from my old CAB colleagues that the majority of Appeals are successful, especially if they advocate for you. They love to win so please, please use them if you need them. Big hug, lovely. xx
Hugs from me too justa, it all sounds so horribly agonizing.
All the best xox
PS: If you have a cry on them, you will be a long way from the first so don’t worry about that. I didn’t even do the difficult stuff like Benefit Advice but I kept a pack of tissues in my drawer. x
Inty, I wondered if your daffodils were sitting in a quite large g&t?
haha 51, it’s a pic from a pinterest site on outdoor weddings…the limes are decorative in the h2o, presumably to hide the stems…or, the daffs are getting hammered:)
Thanks Paul, Inty and 51. It’s not a decision taken lightly but really it’s not a decision at all. For us to continue to have access to healthcare, education, pensions and everything we’ve paid into here we need to continue to be EU citizens. So no choice, we grit our teeth (a rose between them) and become Spanish. Ole!
Ahh but it can always be a white rose, Clocks. 😉
Trying to find hotels in Stamford Bridge is a nightmare. No, not Stamford Bridge the Chelsea stadium, proper Stamford Bridge up by York, you know, where the 1066 battle happened. No, not that battle …. 😉
I get why you’re going to apply for Spanish citizenship given you can’t have dual nationality.But if for some reason you and your family had to leave Spain would you be able to regain your British nationality ?
Naturally, 51 🙂
Stamford Bridge, that was the one where some sneaky chap went under the bridge with a spear and thrust upwards into the groin of the guy bravely defending the bridge against all comers, thus letting some one or other over it, to win,
leading to Bill the bastards later victory at Hastings ? That’s immigrants for you.
Proper lol’d there, Emms. That’s the one, where Harold beat Harald but forgot the back door. 😉
Paul, no, not automatically. We would have the same status as any other EU citizen. Unless some kind of deal is made. It really doesn’t bear thinking about. My Mum’s 87 and in good health at the moment but if that changes and I need to fly over frequently their could be restrictions, even visas, and I wouldn’t be able to use my European health card, which I needed to use over Christmas for my ongoing health condition.
🙂 i remember the story 51,just can’t remember which side the underbridge groin thruster with spear, was on?
Shirley you can “lose” your Brit passports until needed? That way you’re Spanish until, errm, you need to be British.
Harold, Emms not Harald, it was a viking what got it up him. (I am suddenly getting both Steptoe & Son and Dad’s Army, can’t think why ….)
Don’t think that would be possible, Justa. The Watch would need hers renewed every 5 years at the moment, at least when my kids were little it was every 5 years and Clocks and the Mr every 10, if the rule is they can’t have both, don’t see how they can. 😦
Realised my answer to Emms was ambiguous. Harold Godwinson’s side stuck it up Harald Hardrada’s man’s beautocks. He won that battle, Harold, not Harald, but it was a bit of a long walk back to Hastings …. 😉
Dammit. Life is becoming a series of Catch 22s.
World gone fucking mad.
Justa, yes, just as I ‘lost’ my old residence card when they stopped issuing them. I still have an old one which I sometimes use and raises eyebrows because the photo is about 20 years old.
The thing is applying for new passports. Dunno what will happen then.
they should hav e controlled the immigration better,
yup, for Harold it was just unfortunate timing, – no coordination between the vikings and Bill the Bastard, just unlucky for him that they came at the same time.
and we’re still stuck with the Norman elilte ruling over us, Cameron,liz11, and his ilk are their decendants.
This might be of interest to you Clocks
It’s from the UK government website and deals with renouncing your British nationality and resuming it at a later date after you’ve renounced it.
Well, my British passport runs out next year in April, and the watch’s in July. They say that the nationality process takes about two years from handing in the papers, and as I don’t have my language exam until July this year and results two months after, then I guess we’ll already have new passports by the time we apply.
You can’t be alone in that boat, Clocks, have you looked for campaigns or groups of people in a similar position?
I am still of the firm opinion they didn’t think it through and don’t have the capacity to do so.
Thanks, Paul. The weird thing is that in a lot of other places it says you can’t renounce British nationality. Once a Brit and all that…
51, I’m in a Facebook group Bremain in Spain who are campaigning for us in Spain who want to stay here (most, I’d say). They are very much on the ball.
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